[SJAAboard] Villa Montalvo star party, Aug.10

[Gary Mitchell]

Rob Hawley-SJAA wrote:

> I talked about this with Jim on Friday. There is an interesting
> philosophical problem here.
> 
> At what point does a personal commitment to do a star party become an
> organizational commitment? If I were to make a commitment as president, does
> that automatically commit SJAA?  Do I have that authority without the advice
> and consent of the board?  

It depends on exactly what you tell them.  Do you say "I" or "we"
will be there?

> I thought I understood this then Jim pointed out that he commits all the
> time on behalf of the school star party organization; however, he has his
> own resources to meet his commitments. If something happened the
> organization would back him.

That's different.  Jim is the coordinator for the SJAA school star
party program.  If he had to clear each and every one with the board,
the program would quickly grind to halt.

We expect school star parties (we do dozens each year) and we expect
Jim to coordinate them.  He has various rules and procedures in place
to govern the process.  So, when Jim sends out a notice of one coming
up, that's just routine.  On the other hand, committing the club by
someone else may be different--espeically if it's at an unpopular
place or if it appears to be a commercial operation or something.

Once in a while we'll hear of someone committing themselves and
asking if anyone else would like to come help.  That's different yet
again.  At least that's not committing the club.


> In this case a cadre of people has been doing these events.  At least last
> year's and this years never made it to the calendar. 
> 
> The problem in this case is that the rest of the organization loathes the
> site for a variety of reasons.  No one is willing to own up to making the
> commitment in the first place so it is hard to evaluate how much of this was
> a personal and how much was an organizational commitment.

Do we even know what sort of commitment was made?

Gary


> I would like to talk about this a more when everyone is in the same room.
> Maybe this is a unique case and maybe it is a cautionary tale of what we
> should be unilaterally committing to.
> 
> 
> Rob Hawley 
> 
> 
> 
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